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Beginner Boardgame Mini Painting

Post by Nefaro on Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:44 am

I started painting some of my boardgame minis a few months ago.  

Here are some (very) close-up pics of the first couple batches:

ST:Fleet Captains, Klingons




Some Descent heroes:




The Descent minis in use:




Over the course of those batches, I noticed an improvement in my painting speed.  But it's been a couple months since I last did so.  Probably got rusty in the meantime.

Soooo many left to paint! And not just from these two games.
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Re: Beginner Boardgame Mini Painting

Post by Dukely on Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:32 am

Ah, I like those Klingon ships, from the Fantasy Flight game right? I have some of the world war 1 Wings of Glory from them. I like your painting style. I have a bunch of minis I need to paint from Super Dungeon Explore. Been on my desk for a year...


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Re: Beginner Boardgame Mini Painting

Post by Nefaro on Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:43 am

Dukely wrote:Ah, I like those Klingon ships, from the Fantasy Flight game right? I have some of the world war 1 Wings of Glory from them. I like your painting style. I have a bunch of minis I need to paint from Super Dungeon Explore. Been on my desk for a year...

Actually, the ST: Fleet Captains game is from WizKids. You might recognize the "clix" bases. It's more of an area control strategy game.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/79127/star-trek-fleet-captains

Still need to paint the Federation and Romulan ones, along with the big Klingon battleship.


I also have Super Dungeon Explore.. and the Undead expansion.. but have only glued together the monsters for the original and primed them. Still need to do the same for the heroes. Fortunately the expansion doesn't need assembly. However, I've got both of the Shadows Of Brimstone sets coming, which will be like a damn full-time assembly & painting job for awhile once they arrive. What have I got myself into? pale

So backed up with hobbies to do that I start to feel guilty, like I'm shirking a job responsibility. Laughing


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Re: Beginner Boardgame Mini Painting

Post by Nefaro on Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:59 am

Speak of the devil... the SOB sets are being shipped today.

The amount of assembly required will probably make the amount in Super Dungeon Explore look like pocket change. But I'm much more jazzed about playing SOB, being a Wild West + Lovecraftian mix (and Solitaire capable).

So I'll disappear from the face of the planet for a time, and show back up looking like the Unibomber after breathing glue fumes for a long period of time. -3 Sanity Points.
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Re: Beginner Boardgame Mini Painting

Post by Dukely on Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:09 am

Haha, yep I have tons of unbuilt and half built models everywhere. Some goes for painting.


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Re: Beginner Boardgame Mini Painting

Post by Nefaro on Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:20 pm

Dukely wrote:Haha, yep I have tons of unbuilt and half built models everywhere. Some goes for painting.

I'd much rather paint than assemble, though.

At least I can get around to painting whenever I feel like it. But all the stuff I get are for gaming so in order to get them on the table, I have to get them glued.

I also have about sixty pewter Cold War jet minis to glue onto stands and paint for use with Check Your Six: Jet Age (and it's Arab-Israeli War expansion) along with The Speed Of Heat perhaps. Those are the only actual made-for-tabletop wargame minis I have. And they've only been primed after a year and a half. scratch No way I'm doing any Games Workshop nuttery or vast Napoleonic armies!
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Re: Beginner Boardgame Mini Painting

Post by Dukely on Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:54 am

I started out doing Games Workshop. I didn't know much about wargaming at the time and asked for the 40k starter set many years ago. I have some Warhammer Fantasy too, along with Flames of War. Flames of War is my favorite by far though. As fun as doing Napoleonic age battles would be, the number of minis you need to buy and paint puts me off too.

I haven't bought any wargaming minis in a few years. Since I have no one to play with, I don't see the point in building an army I can't use.

Gonna have a look at Check Your Six: Jet Age. If i can find war games that aren't super heavy and long, I may be able to talk a few friends into playing. Razz


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Re: Beginner Boardgame Mini Painting

Post by Nefaro on Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:12 am

Dukely wrote:

Gonna have a look at  Check Your Six: Jet Age. If i can find war games that aren't super heavy and long, I may be  able to talk a few friends into playing. Razz


It uses a similar system to the old Blue Max WWI game. Which Fantasy Flight modified and re-released recently. Got that one on sale for $20 during the recent FFG sale, but it doesn't have many aircraft types in it now. *Sigh* Expansion mentality these days. Finding small scale minis for Jet Age wasn't easy, either. There aren't many providers out there and they're not very detailed.

I believe a derivative version of the game system is free to download, named Canvas Eagles. It's a minis air combat game but at least the base stuff is all free PDFs. But the real cost in these is all the damn minis, mounts, and such. You could probably just buy Wings of War/Glory minis and remount them at almost the same cost but that still isn't gonna be cheap.

http://www.eaglesmax.com/


I think the Wings Of War/Glory rules took a lot of cues from these old titles albeit without using hexes, and some simplification all around. For introducing beginners, stuff like Wings Of Glory is probably the best and easiest way to get them interested.
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Re: Beginner Boardgame Mini Painting

Post by Dukely on Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:32 am

I wanted to pick up that Blue Max game. I did notice its hard to find world war I aircraft minis. Hopefully if i can find some of decent price and quality Ill start looking for a rules set.


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Post by Nefaro on Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:45 pm

Dukely wrote:I wanted to pick up that Blue Max game. I did notice its hard to find world war I aircraft minis. Hopefully if i can find some of decent price and quality Ill start looking for a rules set.


That link to the free Canvas Eagles WWI air combat game should help you with all that. It has links to the handful of WWI minis providers on the site.
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Re: Beginner Boardgame Mini Painting

Post by Dukely on Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:43 am

Oh cool, I'll have a look then.


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Re: Beginner Boardgame Mini Painting

Post by SeaLord on Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:55 am

Dawn Patrol (originally Fight in the Skies) is a good World War I air combat game.
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Re: Beginner Boardgame Mini Painting

Post by Dukely on Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:15 am

Yeah I've had a look at a number of WWI air combat games. Maybe if i can get some people interested we can start up a play by email sort of thing. Or i could make videos of the game and players tell me the moves they want to make. That would kinda be a play by forum thing i guess.


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Post by Nefaro on Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:45 am

Dukely wrote:Yeah I've had a look at a number of WWI air combat games. Maybe if i can get some people interested we can start up a play by email sort of thing. Or i could make videos of the game and players tell me the moves they want to make. That would kinda be a play by forum thing i guess.

Multiplayer using Vassal is probably the best option via the internet. Just depends on whether a module has been made for the specific game.


I just received my Shadows Of Brimstone core sets yesterday.

I can see why people are criticizing the model quality. Part of the reason given by Flying Frog for having unassembled minis on sprues was that we would get excellent quality minis. But that didn't turn out to be the case. Some of the appendages are poor fits (leaving too much open seam in some places) and the detail isn't what it was supposed to be. However, everyone seems to love the gameplay so if it's that enjoyable I'll get over it.

I glued the majority of one set last night. Very tempted to give the first set a play session before continuing to assemble, trim, and paint. Dunno yet. I'll post pics of the thing when it's eventually on the table.
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Post by Dukely on Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:06 am

Sounds cool. I'm intrested to see some pics.


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Post by SeaLord on Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:14 am

Here is a Vassal link to Dawn Patrol, if you are interested.

http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:Dawn_Patrol

I have also collected paper models (and have actually built a few--see my avatar). There are some good 1/72 paper models of World War I aircraft (some of them are free) that would be good for minis.
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Post by SeaLord on Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:19 am

Here is a link to a seller of paper models. The models can be a little pricey, but it is possible to design your own with a CAD program or Pepakura Designer.

http://www.wargamevault.com/browse.php?filters=0_40213_0_0
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Post by SeaLord on Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:21 am

I hope I didn't break any rules by posting links. If I did, please delete the links and I promise never ever to do it again.
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Re: Beginner Boardgame Mini Painting

Post by Dukely on Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:43 pm

Your free to post links. I want this to be a super casual forum, we don't even have rules posted. These paper planes are pretty cool. Do you need special paper to print them on?


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Post by SeaLord on Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:00 pm

Usually card stock is used. But for small models, or small parts of bigger models, regular weight paper can be used. People use whatever works to make the models. The neat thing is once you have a design, it can be "repainted" in Photoshop or a drawing program to make different versions. No painting required!

I have a big collection of free files on my old computer. I have to hook it back up to my network. There is a lot of free stuff out there. I am a member of a paper modeler forum at http://www.papermodelers.com/ There is free stuff, including game miniatures on the site too.
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Re: Beginner Boardgame Mini Painting

Post by Dukely on Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:45 am

Cool! I have tried building some paper buildings and things in the past for wargamming but they never turned out quite write. I guess I need to pick up some card stock.


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Post by SeaLord on Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:08 am

There are a lot of little techniques that are used in the construction--an Exacto knife (or the insanely sharp scalpel blade) is one essential tool, rolling the paper to curl the paper for rounded parts, scoring at the fold lines, coloring the edges of the paper to hide the white color, etc. Papermodelers endlessly debate the merits of various types of glue. White glue is used for the most part, but the water base warps the paper. Non-water based glue, like rubber cement should be used for gluing large flat areas so the paper stays flat. Papermodeling is not like building a plastic model. With a paper model patience, dexterity and precision counts.

Also it helps to know Polish, or have a Polish-English dictionary, because many of the best paper model companies are based in Poland and the instructions for the models are in Polish. Klej pokład od 21 do kadłuba 32 (glue deck 21 to hull 32).
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Post by Nefaro on Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:53 am

SeaLord wrote:Here is a Vassal link to Dawn Patrol, if you are interested.

http://www.vassalengine.org/wiki/Module:Dawn_Patrol

I have also collected paper models (and have actually built a few--see my avatar).  There are some good 1/72 paper models of World War I aircraft (some of them are free) that would be good for minis.


I borrowed the old TSR Dawn Patrol from a friend back when I was a kid. I vaguely recall enjoying it, but don't remember the game mechanics much.

I also owned AH's Richthofen's War around the same time.

Right now, I have the new version of Blue Max, the Wings reprint, and the American version of Aces High (that comes with all western front planes from the original too). And those are just my WWI air combat tabletops! Also have Air Superiority/Air Strike/Speed Of Heat Cold War series. Plus the same creator's WWII series, Over The Reich/Achtung Spitfire/Whistling Death. And the minis game Check Your Six! Jet Age with the Arab-Israeli expansion.

Plus the operational ones: Elusive Victory and Bloody April from GMT.

Sad thing is I've not played any of them yet. Well.. I played some Air Superiority & Air Strike years ago but it's been a long time. Most of the others still need to be learned, much less played. study


On another side note: There is a vassal module for Super Dungeon Explore. I saw a YT recording of someone playing it with his buddies over the 'net. So some of the easier & more straightforward games are an option too, if we ever get around to it.
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Re: Beginner Boardgame Mini Painting

Post by Dukely on Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:55 am

Yeah, I think it would be fun to try and setup some vassal games.


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Post by SeaLord on Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:20 am

I have a copy (and some rules update/modifications). I haven't tried to find anyone to play the game with--I always liked to play face-to-face at a table because it is more fun. I have also been busy with work and haven't had time to play it.

The board is made of squares, not hexes. (The game map that comes with the game is a little small.) I can dig out the game to look at the rules if you are interested.

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