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SeaLord
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spin recovery

Post by SeaLord on Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:53 am

Is there a trick to spin recovery in a Spad or other planes for that matter. I was in a Spad 7 and I went into a left-hand spin. I chopped the throttle to idle, pushed the stick forward to get the nose down--no effect. I kicked the rudder to the right--no effect. I kicked the rudder to the left--no effect. I rocked the stick--no effect. I must be doing something wrong, or my plane was damaged or something.

I die from spins more than anything.
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Re: spin recovery

Post by Dukely on Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:16 am

Hopefully someone with more knowledge then me will come along and give you a good answer. I try a few things when i get into a spin. I kill the engine and turn against the spin, this helps in some planes, like the Niueport. Again, could be I just get lucky and there is a better way. You should also learn the limits of the plane you are flying as to not get into a spin in the first place. If your banking fast and it feels shaky, straighten out again. Coming from game with more modern craft, it takes a while to get used to the fragility of the early planes.


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Re: spin recovery

Post by SeaLord on Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:51 am

I came to the same conclusion you did. I am turning too tight and bleeding off all of my energy. Rise of Flight dogfights feel like they are almost in slow motion. I have to try out some different maneuvers.

Without the little red tracking arrows it is hard to keep track of where my opponent is, even with Track IR. I am getting better though. I can fly a Sopwith Camel, and I do OK if I don't pull too tight in the turns--it will snap into a spin in a heart beat. Still, in the melee of a dogfight, I usually get someone on my tail and I get splattered with my own motor oil. Then it is just a matter of time till they finish me off.
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Re: spin recovery

Post by SeaLord on Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:52 am

Alxo, are there any plans for a team multiplayer?
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Re: spin recovery

Post by Nefaro on Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:31 am

Some of the aircraft in ROF have different spin recovery procedures than the normal "idle, stick forward, and apply opposite rudder" that is the most natural.

Whether that's how those different planes really recovered from spins is up for debate, I'm sure. I have a list of ROF plane info by type that includes the recommended spin recovery techniques in ROF. Some even say "pull back on the stick" which seems completely foreign to me. But I think the SPADs are normal, other than saying "turn off engine" in addition to the stick & throttle movements.

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Re: spin recovery

Post by Dukely on Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:39 pm

I don't fly many Sopwiths well either. Has for multiplayer, I know it starts to get crazy for people around this time of the year so I haven't scheduled any flights. I may schedule one in December and see if it works for people.


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Re: spin recovery

Post by SeaLord on Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:09 pm

Sounds good. There is definitely a lot of stuff going on now.
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Re: spin recovery

Post by DrZebra on Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:45 am

Spin recovery:

With most planes in ROF, the standard of real world procedures (throttle back, stick forward of neutral and rudder agains spin direction) do not work.. it is a quirk in the flightmodel. However, analouge to the real world, looking into each planes flighthandbook is mandatory to know which things you need to do to stop spinning.

those can be found in the user manual:
http://riseofflight.com/en/community/usefulmaterials

most actually need (in addition to counter rudder) a short pull back on the stick with counter spin aileron to stop the rotation, followed by a swift kick forward with ailerions neutral to recover airspeed and flight.. but there are notable exceptions, so looking into the planes you like to play with is one of the most recomendable things.

some "Bad" ie: not imidiate recovery is found on the spad 7, the albi DIII (if in deep stall, normal stall is very benevolent) the fokker EIII and the full fuel pup. Fe2 can sometimes also be a bit of a diva as well as a fully loaded DFW. most other planes have little trouble recovering and are pretty straightforward.


inverted spins also need some attention, especially since they tend to starve your engine of fuel..

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Re: spin recovery

Post by SeaLord on Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:58 am

Thanks for the information. I will look at the resources you mention.
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Re: spin recovery

Post by SeaLord on Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:11 pm

I'll keep the video handy too for those situations where I need to land on a train. I can hobo my way back to base.
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Re: spin recovery

Post by DrZebra on Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:58 am

^^ always feel free to join the sports-landing society. A lot has changed over the patches (all "added" 3d objects even the cliffs of dover now a "superrough" surface with physics that stop you instantly.) but messing around with the different things is quite enjoyable in RoF.

http://riseofflight.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32743


actually if you are in a plane that kills you on flipping over (fokker e3 etc..)and you´ve lost a wheel.. it is a lifesafer, because these things don´t kill your pilot as quick as ordinary ground does.

piers are really inviting to put damaged planes on there

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Re: spin recovery

Post by SeaLord on Mon Dec 01, 2014 5:03 am

I will have to figure out how to record the video.
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Re: spin recovery

Post by DrZebra on Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:34 am

you can record tracks (that display info otherwise unavailable in flight, too) but for long missions, the filesize gets big and it slows your machine down a bit, apparently.

default key is crt+r, I think.. it is usefull for post-analysis of online flights, too.

to make tracks to go into movies you need a screen capture software, either a bought one or a free one. Open broadcaster is one free option
(i use a trashy, free fraps version that only goes 480x640.. but thats just because I did not care much and just wanted to sketch down ideas and silly stuff.. i gotta ugrade someday soon)

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